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Discussion The 9950X3D2 thread - The most divisive CPU ever. Period.

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Thunder 57 said:
Playing socket roulette really bit Intel in the ass there. Maybe that's why they claim to be serious about socket longevity starting with LGA 1954. I wonder how quickly all those who have claimed it doesn't matter will suddenly change their tune.
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I've posted the polls on platform longevity and its importance to DIY shoppers. Less than 10% of respondents in those polls chose the option stating it had no influence on their purchases. More than half chose it was a primary concern. That tracks with AMD dominating retail sales for years now.

It takes the hassle and worry out of building a gaming PC. You can buy a cheap board. If you are low on funds, you can also buy a bottom tier CPU so you can put more into the GPU, knowing there will be a quick and easy drop in CPU upgrade with massive performance gains to be had, years later.

This D2 CPU is not for gamers like me. But some day, just like the new 8 core that is, it'll be cheap enough for AM5 owners with slower CPUs that want it.

And absolutely, the number one talking point will be platfrom longevity as soon as Intel has the advantage there. Just as more cores and better productivity, along with acceptable gaming performance, were early Zen talking points.
WelshBloke said:
So many people were complaining a lot about AMD only putting the extra cache on one CCD!
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Complaint culture gonna complain. It's fun for those of us with our lawnchairs and popcorn watching the show. It has provided great schadenfruede over the years.

Some of the greatest hits include: the armchair experts complaining about Zen 3 launch pricing, only to see it still be relevant and outselling the competition's latest and greatest 6 years later. It highlights what a great value it was on day one.

The Ryzen 5500 inducing laughter and derision on release; who's laughing now? It's been a top seller since before the holidays last year. Just knocked X3D out of the top spot.

All this whinging about the D2 and 9850X3D, and both are top 10 sellers on Amazon U.S. The D2 has brought so much attention to the gaming and productivity mix, it has helped propel the 270K into the top 10 for the first time. Simply by providing a compare and contrast of bang for buck. Good stuff.

EDIT: The D2 effect has the 9850X3D in 3rd place. $657 CPU is looking like a bargain I guess? 😝

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DAPUNISHER said:
Some of the greatest hits include: the armchair experts complaining about Zen 3 launch pricing, only to see it still be relevant and outselling the competition's latest and greatest 6 years later. It highlights what a great value it was on day one.

The Ryzen 5500 inducing laughter and derision on release; who's laughing now? It's been a top seller since before the holidays last year. Just knocked X3D out of the top spot.
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That is all due to the economy and later Intel socket sillyness coupled with cpu's cooking themselves. Much like the initial prices of Zen3 were due to the economy of 2020. Zen3 was a $50 cheaper 6core, 3 years after the 8700k came out. 40-50% price increases for 20% performance is not some great deal. $200 to $300 isn't great for a 6 core ryzen. It became one because of other factors, 2-3 years after the fact.

Same with say how good a value the 2600k turned out to be, i7's being the far better investment for about 7 years due to Intel having no competition and slow roll out of more cores.
 
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[Official] Zen 5 X3D Owner's Club (9800x3D /...

Just like the Zen 4 X3D thread, I’m opening up this discussion prior to the anticipated launch/announcement of this generation’s 3D vcache offerings. Until launch and official announcement from AMD, everything posted here should be taken with a heavy grain of salt. Until then, rumors...
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Few people getting lucky with their bins while others returning their chips. Some users have gotten very good IMCs while a few have gotten awful IMCs that can barely do 8000 MT/s.
 
yottabit said:
That being said I'm more price sensitive than I used to be and this feels too close to Zen6 now.
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For the niche this CPU occupies it will still be better than Zen 6. The Zen 6 replacement for this CPU won't be out until well into that product's lifecycle so anyone paying for the performance premium this CPU offers in the place it wins will likely get to wear that crown for the next two years.

Most consumers and posters here don't need this CPU. A Zen 6 CPU is going to perform better for the needs of most consumers. That doesn't make this CPU a bad product, it just makes it a bad choice for most people.
 
Just installed mine today and I'm pretty pleased with it. 9950x3d2.jpg
Cpu: AMD 9950x3d2, 16 core/32 thread, dual 3d cache.
Memory: G-Skill DDR5 6000 CL26, 48 gig.
Motherboard: Msi X670E Tomahawk.
Graphics: AsRock 7900xtx, 550-watt bios (on air).
Power Supply: Seasonic 1600 watt.
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro.
Main Drive: Samsung 9100 Pro, 4tb.
Movie Drive: Seagate 24tb.
Case: Thermaltake W100.
Monitor: 32", 300hz.
 
yottabit said:
I can't believe the crocodile tears over Steve @ GN, he's pretty much on my blacklist now because I feel he has just lost the plot and let success/ego go to his head.
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What plot, exactly?
Is his opinions and conclusions about products he reviews and he doing "consumer advocacy" and pointing to all the ugly (and murderous) things the companies that make these products are doing?
 
Guess i can post here also since thread is about 9950X3D2, maybe some find it interesting.

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Cinebench R26 MT efficiency race

With inspiration from the R23 efficiency thread i thought we could start a new one for Cinebench R26 as i think its better "real world performance metric", since it actually care about memory...
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The data reveal for my CPU something interesting if you haven't been following AM5 overclocking scene closely.. A overclocked memory system on Zen5 uses more power and is actually a negative at these very low power levels running outside the design parameters for AM5. This is also why AMD cant use this chiplet layout on their notebooks/laptops, the uncore is using too much energy and the cores are starving for power.

But at the higher power levels these CPU are made for you can get a upto ~15% performance increase for the tuned uncore in this benchmark
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Peak Efficiency Sweet Spots
  • For Stock memory: The absolute sweet spot is 50W (116 pts/watt).
  • For Tuned memory: The efficiency peaks much later, around 120W (84 pts/watt).
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Det0x said:
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These were all done at the same TDP or different? Do you remember for each if different TDPs?
 
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